PQC: without the power of the State, can there be Marxism and Capitalism, in which each one is the upside down of the other. My take is that since power corrupts, absolute State power corrupts absolutely then What choice do you have? Have you seen enough how of such power have worked in the world? In essence, they both are the same main product of the same paradigm: Statism, violent coercive power. Anyway, watch this conversation and see what Dr. Richard Wolff has to say about them, and make up your own mind. Please think very carefully and don’t be fooled.